Nearly three weeks since North Korea’s Kim Jong Un was last seen in public, President Donald Trump and senior South Korean leaders are downplaying or even outright dismissing reports that the young leader is in poor medical condition or dead.
After Kim missed the secretive country’s most important national holiday, rumors of his demise have only grown, even as a new theory gains support — social distancing against the coronavirus pandemic.
On Tuesday, Trump declined to answer questions about Kim, telling reporters at the White House, “I don’t want to comment on it. I just wish him well.”
MORE: How reports of Kim Jong Un's health spread and what they tell us about what comes next for North Korea
The day prior, however, he suggested that Kim is alive and said that he had “a very good idea” of what his condition is.
President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un walk on North Korean soil toward South Korea in the Demilitarized Zone on June 30, 2019, in Panmunjom, Korea.President Donald Trump and North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un walk on North Korean soil toward South Korea in the Demilitarized Zone on June 30, 2019, in Panmunjom, Korea.Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images, FILE
“I do know how he’s doing, relatively speaking. We will see. You’ll probably be hearing in the not-too-distant future,” Trump said during his briefing with the coronavirus task force members.
Those cryptic remarks came days after Trump attacked CNN, which, citing an unnamed U.S. official, had reported that U.S. intelligence is assessing whether Kim is in “grave danger.” At Thursday’s briefing, he called that a “fake report” and said the network “used old documents” without explaining what he meant.
MORE: Speculations surround North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s health
Given its invasive police state and severe isolation, North Korea is a difficult country for foreign intelligence agencies to penetrate and the inner workings of its ruling elite are tightly held — making it difficult even for U.S. spies to know what’s happening.
“Longtime watchers are just saying, ‘Look, we don’t know. No one knows,'” said Bruce Klingner, former deputy CIA chief for Korea and now a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
MORE: 'No denuclearization' if US continues 'hostile policies' toward North Korea: Kim Jong Un
A senior Defense Department official backed that up, telling ABC News on Sunday that anyone who says they know exactly what is happening with Kim does not know what they are talking about because the U.S. does not have clarity or sufficient intelligence penetration to know.
Kim was last seen at a communist party politburo meeting on April 11, leading the party’s discussion on prevention of the novel coronavirus, according to photos published by state media. While he has been absent from state media for stretches of time before, including for nearly 20 days twice before this year, speculation rose because for the first time in his rule, he missed the commemorative events for the birthday of his grandfather and North Korea’s founder Kim Il Sung on April 15 — the country’s most important holiday.
North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un and his sister Kim Yo Jong attend the Inter-Korean Summit at the Peace House, on April 27, 2018, in Panmunjom, South Korea.North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un and his sister Kim Yo Jong attend the Inter-Korean Summit at the Peace House, on April 27, 2018, in Panmunjom, South Korea.Pool/Getty Images
Beyond Trump, several senior South Korean officials have now also said that Kim is most likely alive and not in any kind of dire medical condition.
“So far, it is considered that there is no unusual movement in North Korea,” South Korean Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-wha told parliament during a hearing on Tuesday.
The country’s Minister of Unification Kim Yeon Chul added that North Korean state media reporting suggests Kim is handling his government’s affairs as normal and suggested coronavirus prevention could be behind his absence instead.
MORE: Who is Kim Yo Jong? Kim Jong Un's mysterious sister increasingly in the spotlight
Officially, North Korea’s government has reported no cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, and it has taken strict measures to shut its borders and restrict travel to stave off an outbreak.
“We don’t have any information that there’s an outbreak, but we are watching how they respond to it,” a State Department official told ABC News last week. But several Korea watchers have said given North Korea’s reliance on trade with China, from where the pandemic first spread, there are likely cases in the country.
Kim isn’t the only one out of the public eye. His sister Kim Yo Jong, who has been discussed as a possible successor given the leadership’s blood line, also missed the commemorative events for their grandfather’s birthday on April 15.
This Thursday, April 23, 2020, satellite image provided by Planet Labs and annotated by 38 North, a website specializing in North Korea studies, shows the Leadership Railway Station in Wonsan, North Korea.This Thursday, April 23, 2020, satellite image provided by Planet Labs and annotated by 38 North, a website specializing in North Korea studies, shows the Leadership Railway Station in Wonsan, North Korea.2020 Planet Labs Inc. via AP
Since the holiday, the core of North Korea’s elites that often surround him have also been absent from public view, according to Thae Yong Ho, North Korea’s former deputy ambassador to the United Kingdom who became the country’s highest-ranking diplomat to defect in 2016.
That’s fueled the theory that Kim and others are ensconced somewhere to keep them safe from a potential outbreak.
MORE: US envoy tells Pyongyang “it’s not yet too late” to proceed with nuclear negotiations
An official from South Korean President Moon Jae In’s office told ABC News last week that Kim was out of the capital Pyongyang at a suburban retreat, while one of Moon’s close advisers Moon Chung In said over the weekend that Kim is “alive and well” and in Wonsan.
Satellite images taken last Thursday by Planet Labs showed a train at the Leadership Railway Station in Wonsan, North Korea — a city on the country’s east coast where Kim has an expansive retreat complex. According to 38 North, a think tank that provides analysis on North Korea, the train which likely belongs to Kim, arrived some time after April 15, and “lend(s) weight to reports that Kim is staying at an elite area on the country’s eastern coast.”
Boats in the Wonsan area have also been notably active and “made unusual moves” in recent weeks, according to another specialty site NK News, “indicating his likely continued presence in the area,” it reported Tuesday.
MORE: Former North Korean diplomat elected lawmaker in South Korea
But Thae, now a member of parliament in the opposition conservative party, said Tuesday that the train could be a “disguise” because the government doesn’t usually park the train where Kim actually is.
What’s odd, Thae added, is that when North Korean Foreign Ministry staff outside of the country are asked about Kim’s health, they normally fire back with aggressive denials, but this time, they are keeping quiet — suggesting perhaps that even they don’t know.
What to know about the coronavirus: